Should we abolish SPM & STPM and replace them with O Levels and A Levels?

[nickvl]

Originally Posted by kiat12

i think the biggest difference on syllabus of history in malaysia and others are our history are too focus on islam,and nearer to become islamic studies and conservation of non-malays on lead to country's development have been abandoned and our history studies seems have to be racism and unfair to others in this multi-racial country..

Funny, I thought Islam history was interesting, it's only the later part...anyway, I digress. In any case, we live in a Muslim country so it's all right if we learn the history of the religion that has long defined our country. The only thing is that, at the same time, it should also cover other world history.

One more thing, history should be objective and impartial and I think in that, it fails as a subject.

Anyway, we are off-topic.

[nemosmknimh]

hahahaha
history subjects are influenced by the politics
that's why several great people names are mentioned very little though they contributed so much
just because our leader hates them

[kiat12]

Originally Posted by nemosmknimh

actually SPM syllabus are ok,or maybe packed!!!
we just need to change the marking system....
well said that most Pre-U science subjects are just the repeated+ more information of Form4/5 science subjects

Plus,actually almost all commonwelth countries' syllabus are standardised.....
read Princess Diaries and it i shown that they learn the same thing like us do........

but the marking scheme of spm wasn't transparent,plus if we introduced o-levels,its better(less but not least)way to improve our malaysians english as proposed by our government..stpm exam are 100% paperwork but a-level including practical test as a part of exam..this can be ensure students can be understand whats talking about..one more advantages of a-levels are they can use their forecast result to apply to uni,which steps earlier than stpm students..

[nickvl]

Originally Posted by kiat12

but the marking scheme of spm wasn't transparent,plus if we introduced o-levels,its better(less but not least)way to improve our malaysians english as proposed by our government..stpm exam are 100% paperwork but a-level including practical test as a part of exam..this can be ensure students can be understand whats talking about..one more advantages of a-levels are they can use their forecast result to apply to uni,which steps earlier than stpm students..

Not really. Stpm is not 100% paperwork. They have practicals too (for science stream) I had friends who had to lurk around parks just to catch their insects (including giant grasshoppers) and inject it and pin them up(all without crushing them in the process) and dissect white mice for bio class. Plus chemistry and physics experiments.

And practicals in stpm is not at all like spm peka. You can't just copy your friend's reports. Practicals carry around 30% for stpm

[nicodemus]

SPM should be revamped... The current SPM examination is not sufficient enough to gauge a student's understanding and there's no transparency... SPM questions leak out easily...

All SPM papers should be in English with the exception of other language papers.. BM would still be the national language and a pass in BM should be enforced... I think the other papers should be in full English... Now we have the science subjects in english but what about accounts, economics, commerce? Shouldn't these papers be tested in English too? Papers such as Moral Education, Pengajian Sivik should be abolished... It's not like if we memorise the 36 nilais we will someone 'bermoral'... =P something more suitable should be introduced, maybe philosophy like someone stated above...

STPM, I think, is good and should not be changed... Well, maybe the trial examinations should be upgraded to a standard national level instead of a state level so that all the trial exams in all schools are standardised, enabling the use of trial results to apply for universities / scholarships...

My stand would be revamp SPM, keep STPM but change the way of handling STPM trial exams...

[erinkoo]

Originally Posted by nickvl

SPM? Perhaps

STPM? Nope....in fact they should drop matrix and make everyone go through STPM

agree whole-heartedly.. but it'll never happen.. matrix were created for a reason.. *ahem..

[Miracle_seed]

We don't have to abolish SPM and STPM, and adopt O-Level and A-Level. Every country has their own education system, even though some of them sound the same (e.g. O-Level and A-Level in Singapore and UK), they don't really follow the same syllabus. SPM and STPM have their own values, for example, the syllabus of our science subjects isn't any less compared to most of the other equivalent exams, most of the time we learn even more. However, we have too many redundant subjects, that should be abolished (You know what are those). Nontransparent marking and grading system is another reason why SPM loses its value, if transparency can be achieved (like A-Level which publishes threshold for each grade of every paper), there wouldn't be any problem with SPM.

Originally Posted by nickvl

SPM? Perhaps

STPM? Nope....in fact they should drop matrix and make everyone go through STPM

Or abolish STPM and have everyone go through matric. By the way, STPM style of exam is a little outdated, as major pre-U programmes in the world have been changed into semester or modular style, all-in-one-shot type is slowly being replaced. Government is heading the right way in changing the STPM format, into modular/semester type.

[marderfarker]

education must not be too exam-orientated...

[kiat12]

Originally Posted by marderfarker

education must not be too exam-orientated...

malaysian education system not only too exam-orientated,but also disturbing from political powers..

[SapphireDragon]

Originally Posted by kiat12

i think the biggest difference on syllabus of history in malaysia and others are our history are too focus on islam,and nearer to become islamic studies and contribution of non-malays on lead to country's development have been abandoned and our history studies seems have to be racism and unfair to others in this multi-racial country..

History is important. Remember George Santayana: Those who forget history are deemed to repeat it....something like that. And good lawyers need good history background.