STPM Further Maths 2009

[Eurytos]

Originally Posted by Johnivan

Huh? I 'am' taking further mathematics this year...

I was referring to markwongsk. Not you, good luck for your Further Mathematics ! ( other subjects fail never mind : ) )

[Secret]

Originally Posted by uoykcuf

mark has answered you in very detail way dy. lol



each book range from rm100-200
so total is rm500-1000
i got one book in my computer in pdf form, if you want u can pm me.
if u can come kedah, u can find me to ask me for the book

Hei, I'm interesting with your further math referrence book in pdf form. So, can I get a copy from u?

[keethai]

is there any further maths tuition here at cheras area? kl?

[Johnivan]

Originally Posted by keethai

is there any further maths tuition here at cheras area? kl?

Sorry, but you have to find it out yourself. Further Maths teachers are really rare in Malaysia, but i think there will be more in the KL area...

[PsyMaths]

I am planning to take Further Maths but I am not that good at maths. I got about average of 90+ for maths and 75+ for add maths in secondary school only. I make frequent mistake and unable to answer some "out of syllabus" question in Form 4 n Form 5 textbook.

The problem here is there is no reference book for STPM further maths alone. I have those 5 uni/college level books mentioned and glance through but I couldn't understand the number & graph theory and statistics part. Furthermore, the example given is too little and some are not included in syllabus. And my weakest part of Maths is probability. Should I take further maths? And I am thinking of going for A-level Further maths tuition.

[Johnivan]

Originally Posted by PsyMaths

I am planning to take Further Maths but I am not that good at maths. I got about average of 90+ for maths and 75+ for add maths in secondary school only. I make frequent mistake and unable to answer some "out of syllabus" question in Form 4 n Form 5 textbook.

The problem here is there is no reference book for STPM further maths alone. I have those 5 uni/college level books mentioned and glance through but I couldn't understand the number & graph theory and statistics part. Furthermore, the example given is too little and some are not included in syllabus. And my weakest part of Maths is probability. Should I take further maths? And I am thinking of going for A-level Further maths tuition.

Hi, nice to meet you!
I would say it would be a little dangerous for you to take further maths if you get only 75+ for add maths (If you want to get an A in STPM)... But of course, if you really put in a lot of effort and understanding, i'm sure it won't be a problem. I'm not discouraging you to take further maths, but i must say that you must be very careful when you make this decision. Make sure you won't regret after that...

Graph theory is OK, but i agree with you that Number theory is hard to understand. Have you actually read thru your Maths T? If you haven't, i would encourage you to do so, cuz you won't understand a single thing without going thru your maths T. When i started studying FMT last year, i got stuck in some integration questions, but after learning it in Maths T this year, everything came to place.

I've never taken further maths tuition, but i think the A-level Further maths tuition will help, except that they don't cover graph and number theory, transformation Geometry, Logic & proof, recurrence relations and chi-squared tests (correct me if i'm wrong). You still have to work these chapters out yourself.

Hope that helps.

[PsyMaths]

Originally Posted by Johnivan

Hi, nice to meet you!
I would say it would be a little dangerous for you to take further maths if you get only 75+ for add maths (If you want to get an A in STPM)... But of course, if you really put in a lot of effort and understanding, i'm sure it won't be a problem. I'm not discouraging you to take further maths, but i must say that you must be very careful when you make this decision. Make sure you won't regret after that...

Graph theory is OK, but i agree with you that Number theory is hard to understand. Have you actually read thru your Maths T? If you haven't, i would encourage you to do so, cuz you won't understand a single thing without going thru your maths T. When i started studying FMT last year, i got stuck in some integration questions, but after learning it in Maths T this year, everything came to place.

I've never taken further maths tuition, but i think the A-level Further maths tuition will help, except that they don't cover graph and number theory, transformation Geometry, Logic & proof, recurrence relations and chi-squared tests (correct me if i'm wrong). You still have to work these chapters out yourself.

Hope that helps.

Ya... everything blur. I juz finish my complex number. I haven't started the others(especially statistics) as I am waiting for teacher to finish teaching first. Now starting logic and proof. Consider to read recurrence relations after that. I found that the Further Pure Mathematics by Bostock, L. Chandler, S & Rourke C(orange in colour dictionary like) book very hard to understand. Whereas the another one Further Pure Mathematics by Gaulter B & Gaulter M, Oxford 2001 is easy to understand. Which of these 2 books is the main one actually? Another one, I heard from here that Eukyfos even need to write a letter to school for appealing to take Further Maths. Means not every school will allow students to take FM?

[Scrmath]

Originally Posted by PsyMaths

Ya... everything blur. I juz finish my complex number. I haven't started the others(especially statistics) as I am waiting for teacher to finish teaching first. Now starting logic and proof. Consider to read recurrence relations after that. I found that the Further Pure Mathematics by Bostock, L. Chandler, S & Rourke C(orange in colour dictionary like) book very hard to understand. Whereas the another one Further Pure Mathematics by Gaulter B & Gaulter M, Oxford 2001 is easy to understand. Which of these 2 books is the main one actually? Another one, I heard from here that Eukyfos even need to write a letter to school for appealing to take Further Maths. Means not every school will allow students to take FM?

I agree wad john said...i m not discouraging u,but i suggest u should read more math t first,and do their trial,if u think u cn do it fairly good,then only u consider take it..

btw,it is merely a suggestion..and i din take further math also...

[Eurytos]

I have finally obtained my copy of past year further mathematics STPM papers complete with solutions coupled with notes for certain FM chapters. If any of you would like a copy of the notes, feel free to PM me and i will sent you a set. Do take note though that i dont stand to make a profit from photocopying the notes for any of you.

What I would like to see is that students across the country take up further mathematics as a 5th subject. All the best for all Further mathematics candidates out there !

[markwongsk]

Originally Posted by Eurytos

I have finally obtained my copy of past year further mathematics STPM papers complete with solutions coupled with notes for certain FM chapters. If any of you would like a copy of the notes, feel free to PM me and i will sent you a set. Do take note though that i dont stand to make a profit from photocopying the notes for any of you.

What I would like to see is that students across the country take up further mathematics as a 5th subject. All the best for all Further mathematics candidates out there !

What about as the 6th Subject?