Tomboy protests a security threat? (Reuters)

[FCHP]

Malaysia in recent world news...

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddly...4AC4PW20081113

Note that it says "religious ruling"... wonder what kinds of effects that'll have...

[chongkeat]

Oh, god. It's in the "Oddly Enough" (i.e. laughing stock of the world) section.
I normally go there for my daily dose of jokes.

Mainly Muslim Malaysia's National Fatwa Council recently issued a religious ruling that wearing trousers was un-Islamic.

As well as women in trousers, the Fatwa Council is considering barring Muslims from practicing yoga.

oh, um, right.........

[The Myth]

Wearing trousers VS Tomboy ???(Scratch my head)

Only 2 things flash into my mind:

1)It sound kinda....absurd.Perhaps wearing trousers will stimulate the secretion of testosterone,and cause a girl to become a MAN.

2)Malaysians are excellent joker.

Perhaps the next policy will be all men wearing skirts,in order to reduce sex related crime rate(as wearing trousers will become sexually active,as mentioned in the article)...

P/S:Opinion from the facet of science and rational thinking,no offence ya...

[youngyew]

We could laugh from our perspective; but the conservative groups (which I believe is quite prevalent amongst the religious leaders) see these things quite seriously. I perceive this as a conflict between cultures and paradigms, and though perfect for giggles and ridicule, issues like these do reflect the serious conflict between conservative and liberal population in our country. One would be tempted to make a case of the conservative being mentally challenged but over years I have come to be less biased in this regard.

[vseehua]

Originally Posted by youngyew

We could laugh from our perspective; but the conservative groups (which I believe is quite prevalent amongst the religious leaders) see these things quite seriously. I perceive this as a conflict between cultures and paradigms, and though perfect for giggles and ridicule, issues like these do reflect the serious conflict between conservative and liberal population in our country. One would be tempted to make a case of the conservative being mentally challenged but over years I have come to be less biased in this regard.

I believe that they will change their minds after carrying in depth studies on whether it is really the case instead of thinking that everything that doesn't originate from the middle east/quran is unislamic and will corrupt the minds of muslims.

[FCHP]

Originally Posted by vseehua

I believe that they will change their minds after carrying in depth studies on whether it is really the case instead of thinking that everything that doesn't originate from the middle east/quran is unislamic and will corrupt the minds of muslims.

Well is six months considered an in depth study? This is for the coming yoga ruling they're deciding on.

"It is understood that the ruling was agreed upon after an in-depth study lasting more than six months. "

source: http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...405730/Article

We can't help but wonder about the conclusions they make from their studies although this article does seem to help clear things up...

"He said it was unfair to challenge or dispute a fatwa issued by the council purely on logic because it could create confusion among the people."

source: http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...182710/Article

[qedx]

Of course it's unfair to challenge or dispute a fatwa purely on logic. Logic loses against faith every time (refer to my sig )

It is in my opinion that the National Fatwa Council is an irrelevant body, that they are issuing ridiculous decree after ridiculous decree in order to gain support of the religious conservative ignorant Muslims and even the not-so-religious, not-so conservative and not-so-ignorant Muslims who are afraid of appearing not as religious as their neighbours.

There are plenty of other National Fatwa rulings that Muslims in Malaysia has ignored. For example, did you know that they have decreed that smoking is haram in 1995, but I still see plenty of Muslim smokers.

But then, that is one of their better scientifically supported fatwas so I guess that people would not want to follow that. This on the other hand is about "protecting the wimmens", so sadly I guess that people would be eager to follow it to the letter

[vseehua]

Originally Posted by FCHP

Well is six months considered an in depth study? This is for the coming yoga ruling they're deciding on.

"It is understood that the ruling was agreed upon after an in-depth study lasting more than six months. "

source: http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...405730/Article

We can't help but wonder about the conclusions they make from their studies although this article does seem to help clear things up...

"He said it was unfair to challenge or dispute a fatwa issued by the council purely on logic because it could create confusion among the people."

source: http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...182710/Article

I reserve my opinion until the time when they release the research reports to the public...

[Appolo]

I highly doubt that wearing trouser would cause any female to lose her sense of feminism.

It's like saying using too much aftershave makes men sissy since our predecessors doesn't really use them.

Again, could there be any mistake in the info released?

[vikraman]

We're already the laughing stock of the world as it is, what with our "Deep-Thought While Gazing Downwards" Prime Minister and "Mongolian Mischief" DPM. A fatwa or two will never go amiss. Fantastic really.

Now, six months to study a practice that is ~5000 years old? Hardly seems like a fair fight does it? Exactly how many Hindu scholars and Spiritual Experts did they consult in the process? Ten's of thousands of Muslims in the Indian Army practice yoga everyday (It's part of their daily exercise), exactly how many have decided to become murtad?

It's ridiculous really fatwa this and fatwa that. The fatwa against smoking went real well didn't it?(Recent studies indicate 80% of smokers are Muslims/Malays). How about the fatwa against drugs, that too is going fantastically well. (Nearly all the residents of government run drug-rehab centres are Muslim/Malays).

Best step is just to ignore these religious nut-jobs and let thim live in their well of ignorance and idiocy. Why try to take the proverbial "Katak di bawah tempurung" out of it's "tempurung" when it's fights and kicks (not to mention bombs) to stay in? I am sure most right thinking Muslims agree with me on this.