Should rapist be castrated???

[vaanbalthier]

ya'll think of castration as if it's nothing. but i'm sure ya'll will change ur mindset once u watched BME pain olympics n other mutilation videos.
castration will nt change anything. the rapist might be filled wif pain n anger so much dat he might decide to commit the crime again to avenge himself. idk but an eye for an eye policy should nt be practised, but instead use a more, how should i put it, erm, civilised method

[ainin]

Originally Posted by vaanbalthier

ya'll think of castration as if it's nothing. but i'm sure ya'll will change ur mindset once u watched BME pain olympics n other mutilation videos.
castration will nt change anything. the rapist might be filled wif pain n anger so much dat he might decide to commit the crime again to avenge himself. idk but an eye for an eye policy should nt be practised, but instead use a more, how should i put it, erm, civilised method

For example? Wat civilised method can be used on a rapist?

[vaanbalthier]

erm, well, how does 5 years of comunity service sounds to u? those who had done community service for at least 5 months will knw how much it'll change ur life
btw, they can re-educate those rapist, unless if their highly dangerous. civilised method is a very wide topic.....
i suggest sending them to be educated religionly, lol

[whui]

Originally Posted by vaanbalthier

erm, well, how does 5 years of comunity service sounds to u? those who had done community service for at least 5 months will knw how much it'll change ur life
btw, they can re-educate those rapist, unless if their highly dangerous. civilised method is a very wide topic.....
i suggest sending them to be educated religionly, lol

Even an educated man would have his own lust which is uncontrollable sometimes.
Perhaps "an eye for an eye" doesn't mean for the civilize world today, but I can't think of other ways to punish the rapists besides whipping or whatsoever.

[vseehua]

reeducating them is a good but costly way to rehabilitate them. But the society will need to learn that criminals are humans as well, and start accepting them into the society instead of ostracizing them just because they've spent their time in jail in the past.

[vaanbalthier]

Originally Posted by whui

Even an educated man would have his own lust which is uncontrollable sometimes.
Perhaps "an eye for an eye" doesn't mean for the civilize world today, but I can't think of other ways to punish the rapists besides whipping or whatsoever.

erm, dat is wat these education for. ur gonna teach them to control themselves. an eye for an eye is actually barbaric in some ways.
it was mentioned b4 this, people who steal, chop off their hand, people who lie, cut their tongue and etc. is it right for us to do this?
anyway, i find this thread very bias, it seems that most of the ladies here will support castration while most of the men here oppose castration. so here's something new
what do u do to female rapist? male rapist will lose their penis to prevent them from being sexually pleasured, so female rapist will have their clitoris cut off huh? wat do u think? male rapist lose their penis, female rapist lose their clitoris

[whui]

Originally Posted by vaanbalthier

erm, dat is wat these education for. ur gonna teach them to control themselves. an eye for an eye is actually barbaric in some ways.
it was mentioned b4 this, people who steal, chop off their hand, people who lie, cut their tongue and etc. is it right for us to do this?
anyway, i find this thread very bias, it seems that most of the ladies here will support castration while most of the men here oppose castration. so here's something new
what do u do to female rapist? male rapist will lose their penis to prevent them from being sexually pleasured, so female rapist will have their clitoris cut off huh? wat do u think? male rapist lose their penis, female rapist lose their clitoris

AFAIK castration=/removal of penis and clitoris. I don't know where you get the idea that male rapists should have their penis removed while the females have their clitoris removed since It just simply the erectable part in both sexual organ. In fact castration is the removal of testes and ovaries. So I conclude that castrated rapists are still able to rape their victims.

It probably doesn't mean to the civilized world today, and I could say its much the same way like death sentences which aren't seemed to reduce the murderer rate around the world. Terrorist for example. They don't ever fear of death and thats the problem. Plus I wouldn't agree castration is the best way to deter crime rate and I worry that, once its enacted it serves the model for the countries in the whole world. Soon there will be human rights activists demanding the same "an eye for an eye" punishment to the guilty even though they aren't rapist who violate the basic human rights. Afterall, the rapists have violated human rights and they should face the consequences. Either they should be sent to prison, life-long jail sentence, get their a$$ whipped or whatsoever as enacted to the present law but NOT to castatrate them where the process is simply irreversible once you've done to the rapists.
5 years of community service and education costs a lot you know?

[youngyew]

I am disappointed that many people seem to think that cruel retribution is morally admissible, and worse, is what we *should* do. As have been pointed out by a few people here, an eye for an eye is basically equivalent to stooping to his level in terms of atrocity. If someone killed your father, is it then okay to kill his father, mother or sisters as a punishment or revenge?

Two wrongs don't make a right guys.

I understand the necessity and justification of meting out punitive action to a certain extent on the criminals. However, at the end of the day, people should realise this: law and legal punishment ARE NOT a pretext of retaliation for you. You can't think that "Oh, I am so gonna fucking kill this fucking rapist, but I can't because I will be hanged; but hey, we have laws that can do that, so I am going to bring him to court and let the judge fucking kill this fucking rapist!"

The thing is, laws are not your proxy killer. Laws are enacted to protect the public; not for you to kill people legally. We jail people so that we keep the potential danger isolated from the public, rehabilitate the criminal and serve it as a deterrant to the general public. We don't jail or kill people so that you get to kill them without getting yourself hanged in the process.

Heavier punishment does not necessarily translate to less crime. As far as I know, capital punishment have not curtailed drug trafficking or murder cases in our country. Murder rate has not gone up since many Western countries abolished the death sentence. And now some are saying that cutting off one's penis / testicles (strictly speaking castration = removal of testicles / ovaries; not penis or clitoris) will reduce rape cases overnight.

Dream on.

Think of why US has not gotten, and will never achieve peace by killing off all terrorists. The reason is, there's simply no such thing as "killing off all terrorists". When you kill terrorists, you don't get less enemy; you get more. You don't achieve world peace by killing people whom you think do not love peace. And before you scream "KILL! CASTRATE! THIS IS MADNESSSS!!" again, take a moment to ponder how this very principle holds for our outlook on crimes and punishment.

(To think that some people are proud of the fact that "we are not animals, we are civilised". The irony)

[vseehua]

Originally Posted by whui

AFAIK castration=/removal of penis and clitoris. I don't know where you get the idea that male rapists should have their penis removed while the females have their clitoris removed since It just simply the erectable part in both sexual organ. In fact castration is the removal of testes and ovaries. So I conclude that castrated rapists are still able to rape their victims.

It probably doesn't mean to the civilized world today, and I could say its much the same way like death sentences which aren't seemed to reduce the murderer rate around the world. Terrorist for example. They don't ever fear of death and thats the problem. Plus I wouldn't agree castration is the best way to deter crime rate and I worry that, once its enacted it serves the model for the countries in the whole world. Soon there will be human rights activists demanding the same "an eye for an eye" punishment to the guilty even though they aren't rapist who violate the basic human rights. Afterall, the rapists have violated human rights and they should face the consequences. Either they should be sent to prison, life-long jail sentence, get their a$$ whipped or whatsoever as enacted to the present law but NOT to castatrate them where the process is simply irreversible once you've done to the rapists.
5 years of community service and education costs a lot you know?

Although he is a rapist, he is still a human, even if he is just a misguided one. So you are saying that we deserve to violate his rights just because he violated yours?

So in the end it just serves as yet another end for you to get your revenge.

[whui]

Originally Posted by vseehua

Although he is a rapist, he is still a human, even if he is just a misguided one. So you are saying that we deserve to violate his rights just because he violated yours?

So in the end it just serves as yet another end for you to get your revenge.

Ever thought that a rapist leaves trauma to his victims? I haven't counted compensation for what he'd done to his victims. Presently, the law enacted to punish rapists inclusive of what I'd mentioned above. But NOT castratation.
I'm against it. Obviously you're thinking I'm totally agree into castatration wouldn't you?

Can I say, "Although he/she is a murderer, he/she is still a human, even if he/she is a misguided one?"
Law is not for revenge but depends on how people perceive as a medium for them to retaliate their offenders.

Questions here, if that so, do we need law? Or you think its better to educate people rather than enforcing law? IMO, both are needed.