Originally Posted by jingying
i just wanna reply this.ok,i am not a debator and i just said that it is my opinion.i didn't meant in discriminating the rich ones.ya,some are rich because of their hard work and i admit that.i mean for some.they are not wrong for being rich or for being born rich.and if they won't bother to apply the 'troblesome' JPA scholarship,please don't.please leave this once-a-life-time opportunity to those who needs it.ya,if a standard medical course can burn the rich man's pocket then i would say a standard medical course can burn down a poor man's house or can we say anything including a bank account.and the rich ones are NOT being made ashamed.they wil be ashamed of what?
i am not scared of competition,instead ,i like it! because of competition,i achieves good result.competition in academics is healthy but not competition in securing a scholarship.it needs no competition.if you deserves you deserves,why is there a competition?because the rich ones come in to compete with the needies therefore competition occurs.ya, the rich one seize the scolarship of the poor ones that's why we sulk.if seemingly rich ppl get the scholarship i must admit some are because of ther so-so excellent result but the number of it definitely wont be too much.and i believe some may cheat their income(this is a true fact and this happens to many many of my classmates.Do believe it)
regarding the children of the civil servant get the scholarship, and it is like what you said,those are "stories".and being a child to governmant servants,i denied this and i can tel you that this is untrue.jpa doesn'd give priority to government servants' children.(as far as i know)if it is what you said,i wouldn't bother to open my computer and seek for information of how the interview will be done.and ya, this is something unfair,u see,felda will give priority to felda workers.telekom goes the same.and there is many examples companies give priority to thier workers but did government give priority to civil servants?do think about it.
**sorry if i offend anyone going through this.and as what i said earlier, this is my point of view/my piece of mind.no offence.and sorry again, i know this sholdn't be posted here but i saw someone post the above"..." and so i reply here.sorry to all.
well, for one thing, i don't think they would like hearing so many ppl sayi things like, "eh, you so rich, don't apply la,' and things like that in front of their faces or behind their backs. and i bet things may even be worse once they get jpa. who knows? they may even feel guilty abt it. but the thing is, they shouldn be made to feel guilty abt it at all since the ppl who actually select these applicants selected them EVEN THOUGH they were rich and there were POORER PPL who needed the scholarships.
and what did you mean by 'the number of it definitely wont be too much'? o.O so jpa actually gives scholarships to rich AND non-outstanding students over poor AND outstanding students? That's a first.
You deserve what you deserve on the basis of competition. That's the way of life. A is more hardworking than B, A deserves a pay raise more than B. A is more outstanding and needy than B, A deserves the scholarship more than B. This is why questions like, "What makes you stand out from the other applicants?" are constantly applied in interviews. This is not just some happy interview whereby you go there, make friends, answer some questions and go home thinking that you'll surely get the scholarship because you really really deserve it so you don't actually need to compete with the other applicants to get it. If you think you deserve it than you just have to show that you deserve it. JPA is sort of like a competition to see who deserves the scholarship more than who actually.
For those who cheat their income, as long as you're not the one cheating and as long as they don't get the scholarship, it should be fine. And even if they do get the scholarship, well, they got it through cheating, so what do you want to do? File a complain? Report to JPA? That can be done if you want to so go ahead. But I really doubt that they would give you the scholarship (if you havent got it in the first place) just because a few other recipients had cheated and had their scholarships terminated.
And wouldn't it be a double blow if they hand over those redundant scholarships to the supposedly 'rich' ppl we were complaining about.
So what are you going to do next? Complain that life is unfair because those 'rich' ppl now got it instead of you?
Of course it's frustrating when these sort of things happen but it's not something which we have a say over. Let's just find our own alternative roads to success instead of playing the blame game and pinpointing innocent ppl (in the case of those who cheated in the income part, well, sorry to say that you're not that innocent O.o). It's not wrong for being rich but it does seem quite wrong to cheat, to me anyway.
Well, about the civil servants part, it's just a desas-desus i heard whilst waiting for interview. It may be true or it may not be true but i do have a friend whose neighbour's many kids got jpa and their parents are civil servants (and apparently, their spm results aren't exactly as colorful as a lot of ppl's in this forum who did not get the scholarship). So of course i have my suspicions. At least i didn't go saying that all children of government servants should not apply for the scholarship much akin to all rich ppl shouldn't apply for the scholarship. O.o I simply don't have the right nor power to say that.
Ok. I offended enough ppl already. I deleted my earlier post because i felt that it was inappropriate to post it in the interview's thread and also because i didn't want to start a debate though i was xx minutes too late, i see O.o haha i'm sorry for posting this totally irrelevant post into this thread but i assure you that this should be my last post abt the matter as i'm really quite done talking. it's not as though talking any more can help anything.
take care and all the best for your interviews!!!!
don't give up no matter what happens.
PS: to jingying: sorry if i added oil to the fire. it's just a pretty interesting topic and i couldn't help it. nvr am i going to post these sort of stuff again =.= so troublesome. good luck with your jpa! sorry if the civil servants part sounded discriminatory and offending to you. it wasn't meant to be that way. and i never generalised by saying all civil servants are this and that. i only brought up the rumour and asked for clarification which you did. so thanks.