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Is this new law in Kota Baru justifiable?

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  #1 Old 05-12-2006 Default Is this new law in Kota Baru justifiable?

Cover up or else

Interestingly, i find myself in the state of dilemma after reading this piece of news. My mind tells me that this new law is a total rubbish. It appears to me that this is yet another law to restrict human freedom; something that a democratic country who yearns to be a developed in 2020 should not be practising. We don't see well developing cities like KL practising such rules isn't it?

On the other hand my heart tells me that this action is right! They are only going against the retail store workers who wel... should wearing uniforms instead.

What do you think?
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  #2 Old 05-12-2006 Default Re: Is this new law in Kota Baru justifiable?

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Cover up or else

Interestingly, i find myself in the state of dilemma after reading this piece of news. My mind tells me that this new law is a total rubbish. It appears to me that this is yet another law to restrict human freedom; something that a democratic country who yearns to be a developed in 2020 should not be practising. We don't see well developing cities like KL practising such rules isn't it?

On the other hand my heart tells me that this action is right! They are only going against the retail store workers who wel... should wearing uniforms instead.

What do you think?
This is a tricky one. im a moderate muslim you see and i have no problem with girls wearing jeans and blouses etc. But some muslims expect women to wear baju kurungs and all loose fitting clothes to hide the curves of a woman which arrouse a male..
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  #3 Old 05-12-2006 Default

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Women working in retail outlets and restaurants in Kelantan have been warned to mind their dressing or be prepared to face a fine.
Hint: "retail outlets and restaurants"

Even in The mighty might US of A (which people tend to always bench mark themselves too) there are dress codes in retail outlets and restaurants. I highly doubt that Wal-Mart would allow a female employee (don't matter what religion she is) to come in dressed up in similar tight uniform like a girl working at hooters.

also there are weird laws (depending on a persons point of view) EVERYWHERE. EVEN in A developed country like the US

example of dress code laws in US:
In Chicago, it is illegal to fish in one's pajamas.

and from Favorite STATE!!
In Utah, A husband is responsible for every criminal act committed by his wife while she is in his presence.
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  #4 Old 05-12-2006 Default

I think this 'law' is okay as long as they don't go overboard with it. They are just aiming for retail outlets and restaurants so obviously some form of dress code is needed. But this quote at the end of the article seems to need some explanation or at least the definition of 'sexy' clothes [Almost everywhere there are retail assistants or waitresses wearing sexy clothes. ?This is an insult to Islam.?]
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  #5 Old 05-12-2006 Default

da-hype...

"In Sarasota, it is illegal to sing while wearing a bathing suit"

thank God that this is only in sarasota, and not the whole of FL...

similar with the rest, i dont see the need to be freaked out on this. personally, i think it's a good move. having 'human freedom' doesnt mean one can go to work wearing shorts, bikini's, etc. there ought to be a limit to any type of 'freedom', so that ppl wont take advantage of it
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  #6 Old 05-12-2006 Default

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i think it's a good move. having 'human freedom' doesnt mean one can go to work wearing shorts, bikini's, etc. there ought to be a limit to any type of 'freedom', so that ppl wont take advantage of it
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gonjeng..

Also in Memphis, it is illegal for a woman to drive by herself; ``a man must walk or run in front of the vehicle, waving a red flag in order to warn approaching pedestrians and motorists.''


hahahahahahhahahaha @ women rights
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  #7 Old 05-12-2006 Default

However, is it necessary to have a law specially proposed to restrict what we (they) wear? Bounded by business ethics, retail stores themselves should have their respective dress codes to follow.

Consider this response
Outrage over fine for revealing clothes

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Josiah said everyone had the freedom to wear clothes of their choice, and that no one should dictate what a person should wear, certainly not the MPKB.

?I would like to know what is the (acceptable) level of tightness of a pair of pants or jeans, and what happens to those of us who have larger buttocks? Is the MPKB saying that we cannot wear pants or jeans as it will emphasise the buttocks?'' she asked when contacted yesterday.
She tries to convey the msg saying they (women) are no more school girls, stop telling them what to wear.

True enough, do we need to use the way we look after children to govern our country's women? Is using law a bit too serious?

And one of her points hits the jackpot too. Why only the women? what about us, the men?
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  #8 Old 05-12-2006 Default

To those who had spent couple of hours at any Local Universities in Malaysia would agree that those who will enforce these silly time wasting rules are 40 yearolds dealing with midlife crisis.
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  #9 Old 06-12-2006 Default

Many might think that women are blamed for everything.
But in this case, i say, woman should dress appropriately considering on where she is.
If she works in retail outlets and restaurants,she is aware that she's in place frequented by public.Everybody sees her.Imagine a couple going to a restaurant,and this waitress clad in mini skirt and stringless blouse comes to their table to take order.Imagine,how uncomfort both would feel at that time.They would wish they were blind for a split second.Well,except for some who feel they want more.. ..
So,women working in public places should dress up not for the sake of fulfilling religion demands..but for the sake of ethique.
Well,the officials have reacted to complaints.It would have been better if they themselves go undercover to investigate to learn whether it's true or not.
Woman dressing up sexily to woo more male customers.Don't you think it won't happen..?..Or maybe those woman were just being modern-to satisfy their fashion needs..he..he who knows..
The move was quite drastic,to the extent creating uproar among the public...A more thorough investigation should have been carried out.
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  #10 Old 06-12-2006 Default

that doesn't say much about the men in kelantan, does it? lack of self-control?

no wonder that state is the poorest in the country; poor in wealth, poor in intelligence (of the political leaders.)
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