Terengganu says no to Kongsi Raya gathering (The Star)

qedx · #51 07-02-2004

bah i dont accept disruption in my life for any reason :P

and both parties seem to like playing political games anyway. so let them have their fun

qedx · #52 07-02-2004

bah i dont accept disruption in my life for any reason :P

and both parties seem to like playing political games anyway. so let them have their fun

__earth · #53 07-02-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by wawa

Quote:

earth kata, MCA dok attack Islam bulkan dok attack PAS.

No ones attacking Islam

, it's interpretation of it that's creating a lot of hoo haa.

Why hasn't anybody raised the tolerence issue? LIke during the recent Thaipusam ( or was it deepavali?), it generated a lot of traffic jams in Penang during their procession. Its a once in the year issue, so everybody accepts the disruption in their lives. So why not this? Its not like their celebrating it everyday.

that's what you think. imagine how the ppl there think.

anyway, dont you hate this smiley ->

. I think i have a issue.

back to the original point, it just happens that, unfortunately enough, aligns itself with Islam. and this is one of the few PAS' arguments that actually aligns with the opinion of conservative muslim.
and when PAS' opinion and conservative's opinion crosses each other, attacking PAS also means attacking Islam in the eye of the conservatives

I'm not against the celebration, but MCA needs to consider the muslims' sentiment before getting itself excited.

__earth · #54 07-02-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by wawa

Quote:

earth kata, MCA dok attack Islam bulkan dok attack PAS.

No ones attacking Islam

, it's interpretation of it that's creating a lot of hoo haa.

Why hasn't anybody raised the tolerence issue? LIke during the recent Thaipusam ( or was it deepavali?), it generated a lot of traffic jams in Penang during their procession. Its a once in the year issue, so everybody accepts the disruption in their lives. So why not this? Its not like their celebrating it everyday.

that's what you think. imagine how the ppl there think.

anyway, dont you hate this smiley ->

. I think i have a issue.

back to the original point, it just happens that, unfortunately enough, aligns itself with Islam. and this is one of the few PAS' arguments that actually aligns with the opinion of conservative muslim.
and when PAS' opinion and conservative's opinion crosses each other, attacking PAS also means attacking Islam in the eye of the conservatives

I'm not against the celebration, but MCA needs to consider the muslims' sentiment before getting itself excited.

qedx · #55 07-02-2004

i dont like the venue. whats wrong with the state stadium or some local town hall? ministry dont want to foot the rent bill? they must give good reasons to do the event at a primary school. savings on rent and free child labour isnt good enough :p and saying there wasnt enough time to book a better venue just shows a lack of organization on the ministry's part

qedx · #56 07-02-2004

i dont like the venue. whats wrong with the state stadium or some local town hall? ministry dont want to foot the rent bill? they must give good reasons to do the event at a primary school. savings on rent and free child labour isnt good enough :p and saying there wasnt enough time to book a better venue just shows a lack of organization on the ministry's part

z · #57 07-02-2004

i'm just throwing this random thought out there...

maybe the school is seeking some kind of donation from the MP or BN? holding such events at schools usually mean funding/sponsorship of some kind. maybe they get $$$ (or at least priority to funding) for school facilities etc.

just random thought.

z · #58 07-02-2004

i'm just throwing this random thought out there...

maybe the school is seeking some kind of donation from the MP or BN? holding such events at schools usually mean funding/sponsorship of some kind. maybe they get $$$ (or at least priority to funding) for school facilities etc.

just random thought.

jiinjoo · #59 08-02-2004

yeah - that happens in my primary school and secondary school too. We often host dinners because we have a school hall, usually the size of 6 badminton courts. Typically the school rents out the hall to recuperate the cost of building it - normal days to badminton players, sometimes to performance groups, dinners like these, even wedding dinners. They might not be "affiliated", but probably they don't charge that much. At least from my experience, child labor is not used for those occasion. The catering, cleaning up etc. is done by hiring outside people, and usually not handled by the school.

But like z says - the principal of the school might be good friends with the minister, and having it at the school allow the guest to come visit the "fortress" that they made.., maybe to get pity donations for the school?

A stadium will be too big - this is not the 20,000 strong rally at bukit jalil in the rain. And it will be odd to put out some round tables in the middle of the field (unless they have an indoor one). Local town hall is usually jammed packed with events. They are (understandably) more expensive and maybe fully booked months if not years in advance.

p/s I don't have an issue with mr. roll eye

-- perhaps we should have a static version that doesn't move

but I still like mr. green best

jiinjoo · #60 08-02-2004

yeah - that happens in my primary school and secondary school too. We often host dinners because we have a school hall, usually the size of 6 badminton courts. Typically the school rents out the hall to recuperate the cost of building it - normal days to badminton players, sometimes to performance groups, dinners like these, even wedding dinners. They might not be "affiliated", but probably they don't charge that much. At least from my experience, child labor is not used for those occasion. The catering, cleaning up etc. is done by hiring outside people, and usually not handled by the school.

But like z says - the principal of the school might be good friends with the minister, and having it at the school allow the guest to come visit the "fortress" that they made.., maybe to get pity donations for the school?

A stadium will be too big - this is not the 20,000 strong rally at bukit jalil in the rain. And it will be odd to put out some round tables in the middle of the field (unless they have an indoor one). Local town hall is usually jammed packed with events. They are (understandably) more expensive and maybe fully booked months if not years in advance.

p/s I don't have an issue with mr. roll eye

-- perhaps we should have a static version that doesn't move

but I still like mr. green best

qedx Slightly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 991	#51 07-02-2004 bah i dont accept disruption in my life for any reason :P and both parties seem to like playing political games anyway. so let them have their fun

qedx Slightly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 991	#52 07-02-2004 bah i dont accept disruption in my life for any reason :P and both parties seem to like playing political games anyway. so let them have their fun

qedx Slightly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 991	#55 07-02-2004 i dont like the venue. whats wrong with the state stadium or some local town hall? ministry dont want to foot the rent bill? they must give good reasons to do the event at a primary school. savings on rent and free child labour isnt good enough :p and saying there wasnt enough time to book a better venue just shows a lack of organization on the ministry's part

qedx Slightly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 991	#56 07-02-2004 i dont like the venue. whats wrong with the state stadium or some local town hall? ministry dont want to foot the rent bill? they must give good reasons to do the event at a primary school. savings on rent and free child labour isnt good enough :p and saying there wasnt enough time to book a better venue just shows a lack of organization on the ministry's part

z Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 207	#57 07-02-2004 i'm just throwing this random thought out there... maybe the school is seeking some kind of donation from the MP or BN? holding such events at schools usually mean funding/sponsorship of some kind. maybe they get $$$ (or at least priority to funding) for school facilities etc. just random thought.

z Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 207	#58 07-02-2004 i'm just throwing this random thought out there... maybe the school is seeking some kind of donation from the MP or BN? holding such events at schools usually mean funding/sponsorship of some kind. maybe they get $$$ (or at least priority to funding) for school facilities etc. just random thought.