Originally Posted by topdog
da-hype, i don't know much about u.s.-mid east affairs but this much i know:
bush may be an a-hole, but equating bush to bin laden is absurd! simple question: how many arabs do you see emigrating to the states? now, contrast this to how many americans you see emigrating to arab countries?
blaming america for all the crap going on in the middle east, while simultaneously understating arab leaders' not-so-glowing track record, does not help your argument.
i really might want to read more about that bud. there are alot of americans living in the middle east, especially in egypt.. UAE.. bahrain and so on. migration does not prove anything.
Even the best "american" university in the middle east is located in cairo.
My point is... the US government years b4 bush and and maybe even bush now.. all they do i mess up countries poilitical sceen.
Taking the government of iran out.. and putting in the sha...then taking him out.. an putting saddam in power.. giving saddam weapons to kill iranians.. then secretly giving the iranians weapons to kill iraqies... then after the long war donald rumpsfeld (miss spelt i think) going to iraq to shake saddams hand for using chemical weapons (thath th US gave) on iranian. and now taking saddam out of power? hmmmm is that right?? Don't you think that would cause hate?
what's the death tol from that war anyway? and the 2 iraq wars?
and how many people did osama kill? only thing about osama is.. he's not a goverment funded group. like the CIA (again i'm not saying osama is doing the right thing)
...maybe you don't see the big picture.. but..how many countires did england colonize? 64 right? how many of those countires beside malaysia and singapore are actually doing economically well? (note: the english applied their governemnt system in almost all 64 countires)
now go back to iraq... you think "democacy" will work? what are the odds?
2ndly stop watching US news.. it sucks...cause if the people of iraq really2 hated saddam... don't you think they would have taken him out of power? common now... if his soildiers hated him.. they would have turned around and said "why am i taking orders from this fool" and might have shot him themselves.
we can't say thst israel is the only side that breaks the rule.
It is only understandable to see Israel using harsh methods to fight off Hamas and all the anti Israel extremists.
i know both sides break the rules. but how does hamas do it and how does israel do it? israels does it with tanks, guns and god know what else. hamas does it with suiside bombing. Israel does it with US seport.. what about hamas? Did you know israel is building a wall (like the great wall of china) on muslim seattlements? is that right? and israel IS not the only country that tried to make pease... palistine did too. the US media always just shows 1 side of the story. CNN , Fox, AOL and so on are owened by Time warner (a jew) don't you think there will be a bias on what they show?