Who are the true fighters of Merdeka?

wawa · #1 08-09-2005 **Who are the true fighters of Merdeka?**

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...750&sec=nation

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Entitled The Real Fighters for Merdeka, Liu had begun the article rather provocatively with the claim that Umno leaders had not been the real fighters for independence. He went on to name a host of left-oriented figures, including Malay leftists, as the ?freedom fighters?.

He wrote that Umno leaders, including Tunku Abdul Rahman, had not put up real sacrifice in the Merdeka struggle but were ?senior servants of the British government?.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...706&sec=nation

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ts chief Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein said he would not stoop so low so as to debate the matter, and suggested that neither would his deputy Khairy Jamaluddin.

Khairy: Not likely to debate the issue either
?Just (ask the DAP to) get that article out of that website,? an irate Hishammuddin told reporters when asked to comment on Liu?s article, The Real Fighters for Merdeka, which was posted on www.dapmalaysia.org on Sept 1.

I argue that it is not necessary for any freedom fighters to put up a bloody campaign to prove the point that people were keen on independence and to make the British realize that having an independent Malaya is better than having to constantly quell uprisings. Peaceful transitions from colonial powers to local powers have, after all, happened before.

But I am very concerned that Khairy is demanding that the DAP remove the article. Liu after all, is entitled to his own opinion, and it is only natural that opinions defer, and it might not be too healty in the long run for the government body to slam down on opinions that differ from them.

I am interested to know how fellow Recommers feel about this issue. And is it justified to demand Liu's apology and is it, after these years, a painful issue for fellow Malaysians to ponder? It is, after all true, that the insurgency was violent and bloody. And what is it about 'stooping low' to debate on such an issue? *puzzled*

#2 08-09-2005

I vote for Dato Onn.
He gets my respect.

If his mission of opening UMNO to all races was a success,
today Malaysia would be not ruled by a chunk of parties consist of parties fighting for particular race and the political power will be balanced.

Most probably May 13 will be avoided and the cake of nation would be very big by now and maybe DEP/NEP would not exist yet the malays and non-malays are equally wealthy

and if Dato onn succeeded,
most probably
people will not be labeled as bumiputra and non bumiputra and we will be treated much fairer compare to the situation we are facing now.

*Thirdshifter* · #3 08-09-2005

Onn had a great vision and its unfortunate that he left UMNO way to early and didnt try to change things within.

**vseehua** · #4 08-09-2005

i'd sometimes wonder could it be that the people in UMNO at the time could be persuaded to form a free-for-all party...as we all know, at that time itself, the people are also like today, more to their own ethnic only...

*Thirdshifter* · #5 08-09-2005

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Originally Posted by vseehua

i'd sometimes wonder could it be that the people in UMNO at the time could be persuaded to form a free-for-all party...as we all know, at that time itself, the people are also like today, more to their own ethnic only...

He was well respected in UMNO and had a lot of influence on the members. He could've done it or atleast divided UMNO.

Those are the past and its useless to speculate what could've happened.

Anyway lets make Onns dream a reality.

topdog · #6 08-09-2005

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Originally Posted by Thirdshifter

Anyway lets make Onns dream a reality.

it looks like it will take nothing less than a brand new political party to achieve that (true multiethnicity across the board). the current ones have to much historical baggage. the stakes are also too high for umno, mca and co.

maybe recom will one day transform into Parti ReCom?

Salvation · #7 08-09-2005

I support it fully.

*votes for RECOM*

**vseehua** · #8 09-09-2005

jom...let's get down to work...now, who will be the president??

menj · #9 14-09-2005

I read that article in Ronnie and I still dont understand what the fuss is about.

- MENJ

menj · #10 14-09-2005

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Originally Posted by Thirdshifter

Onn had a great vision and its unfortunate that he left UMNO way to early and didnt try to change things within.

He left on his own accord, because of opposition to his plans by some UMNO members at the time.

- MENJ

Thirdshifter Super Moderator Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,610	#3 08-09-2005 Onn had a great vision and its unfortunate that he left UMNO way to early and didnt try to change things within.

Salvation Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 370	#7 08-09-2005 I support it fully. votes for RECOM

menj Super Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 38	#9 14-09-2005 I read that article in Ronnie and I still dont understand what the fuss is about. - MENJ