Global Warming: Scientific fact or urban legend?

[__earth]

Malaysians are pretty quiet on this issue. So, I am wondering what do you think about global warming?

FYI, Russia has just refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol and thus, the Protocol is another failed attempt to save the Earth. Pardon me for the biased statement. You see, I'm a green.

[chenchow]

I had this Kyoto Protocol debates over the summer.

From the research that I made, even if 100% of what Kyoto Protocol is implemented (which is definitely too idealistic), we need about 60 Kyoto Protocol to make any headway to curb the environmental slowdown.

I would try to dig out my research material and upload to share with others.

[__earth]

and i think i messed up the poll.

[screw3d]

It WAS a fact but believe it or not, the Earth is actually cooling down now. I am doing a course in environmental issues now and I came across this in some book.

Furthermore, even if the Earth is indeed getting warmer, we have absolutely no idea if it is for the better or worse. How do you know if the Earth is not getting warmer naturally?

No I didn't pull this out of my own a$$. Just some stuff I've read and the author might be wrong (Gregg Easterbrook - A Moment on the Earth).

[qedx]

off topic:i think the coding's messed up... i'll pm bachok about it

global warming... arent we between ice ages or something like that? maybe scientists 5000 years from now will complain about global cooling...

[__earth]

Gregg Easterbrook, his reputation is similar to Bjorn Lomborg of whom wrote The Skeptical Environmentalist.
There are errors in his book and he sort of skrewed the intepretation of the data. Not that I am saying he lied but statistics could be presented in many ways.
However, I must admit, I haven't read Easterbrook but being a Green, I can't help but being aware of few global warming nay sayers.

see http://www.michaelspecter.com/times/...sterbrook.html or search for his book in Google. There are tons of stuff rebuffing his book. Even in Amazon, there are negative reviews on his book. Here is a further discussion against Easterbrook from an authority in geography and the environment:
http://civic.net/sustainable-develop.../msg00045.html
He is one of the few that deviate from the general concensus that global warming is true. Furthermore, he is not an authority in meteological science. In fact, there is a book written by Environmental Defense simply to correct the errors made by Easterbrook.

The only reason he made it to public limelight is because he is a prominent journalist.

At the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), majority of the scientists from various fields agreed to one conclusion - global warming is real. Global warming is true - that's why Kyoto Protocol was first suggested by the IPCC back before the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio.

one point that needs to be cleared when talking about global warming is the difference between natural global warming and the accelerated global warming. We are facing the accelerated global warming.

[__earth]

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[__earth]

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[Thirdshifter]

God damn it. I could use some global warming right about now! This snow, Sub-zeroes termpature is getting way out of hand.

I am tired of doing this...

[Thirdshifter]

God damn it. I could use some global warming right about now! This snow, Sub-zeroes termpature is getting way out of hand.

I am tired of doing this...