STPM = the hardest exam, globally?

**masterof_none** · #11 02-07-2004 **Re: STPM = the hardest exam, globally?**

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Originally Posted by infested_ysy

I have been hearing phrases which comments STPM as one of the hardest exam as of now.

Just wondering, how true is this? From where do you all draw your conclusions?

I would ask some further question:

harder, compare to what?. compare to A-Level or compare to some PhD program, or UPSR?
it's the same if we want to ask : is 1 cm longer?

longer compare to ?. if its compared to 1 nanometer, then it's long.
if it's compare to mile, then its not. if it compared to kilogram, than, it's nonsense.

Harder or not is quite a relative question. I think if it compare to SAT,(scholastic aptitutede test/scholastic assesment test/silly american test, or whatever that's related to american college entrance test), then i don't want to say it's hard. You can get 3A in A-level (somewhat equivalent to STPM, but not quite) and still can get poor result in SAT (me). It's a relative question.

So, my conclusion is, if you think it's hard, then STPM is hard...
if not, then, voila!. you can get 5A. Easy as Dell.

SHuLy · #12 02-07-2004

from chenchow's last msg, i feel inclined to ask,

would anyone of you would like to "speculate" or comment on why is it that the number of passes, and often scorers increase yearly in every major examination by the Malaysian education ministry (this excludes A-levels, SAM...etc. It's exams like UPSR, PMR, SPM and STPM) ?

infested_ysy · #13 02-07-2004

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Originally Posted by SHuLy

from chenchow's last msg, i feel inclined to ask,

would anyone of you would like to "speculate" or comment on why is it that the number of passes, and often scorers increase yearly in every major examination by the Malaysian education ministry (this excludes A-levels, SAM...etc. It's exams like UPSR, PMR, SPM and STPM) ?

That's simple, the ministry of education tries to impress the world by trying, using any way possible, to increase the number of students who got themselves an A. But unfortunately, they don't have enough brains to realise that the people might suspect "somthing" wrong going on.

The_Observer · #14 02-07-2004

I guess with the big 'hoo-ha' that happen this year in particular compared to the ones before, I think that our dear MOE most likely will instruct their examiners to be extra tight with their marks.

I am not belittling our student's performances just that I am speculating that the MOE will introduce measures to protect it's paper pushers. There will be a large number of high-flyers but not as many that it will be an overflow.

Tiong · #15 02-07-2004

The exam is tough. But the score for getting an A is constantly pulled down to make it level with matriculation. The toughness lies in the sheer size of the syllabus, but it's not that hard to prepare for.

gohweihan · #16 02-07-2004

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Originally Posted by Tiong

But the score for getting an A is constantly pulled down to make it level with matriculation.

If the score is constantly pulled down to level it with matriculation, then how do you explain the sheer percentage of matriculation students with a CGPA of 4.00 compared to STPM students?

The whole idea of comparing matriculation and STPM is pure nonsense.

Steppe · #17 03-07-2004

How come nobody feel that A levels is just as difficult?

The_Observer · #18 03-07-2004

You can't compare A-levels to STPM...A-levels is way too truncated to have a straight fight with STPM...oops better don't say too much, I already caused too much 'hoo-ha' over this matter already...

STPM is up there in terms of sheer study intensity

**masterof_none** · #19 03-07-2004

try compare the Economics in STPM and Economics in A-Level . Except they already change the format, I believe Economics in A-Level is harder. especially paper number 2 (the statistics part).
(isn't this a relative question?)

janewai · #20 03-07-2004 **Re: STPM = the hardest exam, globally?**

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Originally Posted by masterof_none

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Originally Posted by infested_ysy

I have been hearing phrases which comments STPM as one of the hardest exam as of now.

Just wondering, how true is this? From where do you all draw your conclusions?

I would ask some further question:

harder, compare to what?. compare to A-Level or compare to some PhD program, or UPSR?
it's the same if we want to ask : is 1 cm longer?

longer compare to ?. if its compared to 1 nanometer, then it's long.
if it's compare to mile, then its not. if it compared to kilogram, than, it's nonsense.

Harder or not is quite a relative question. I think if it compare to SAT,(scholastic aptitutede test/scholastic assesment test/silly american test, or whatever that's related to american college entrance test), then i don't want to say it's hard. You can get 3A in A-level (somewhat equivalent to STPM, but not quite) and still can get poor result in SAT (me). It's a relative question.

So, my conclusion is, if you think it's hard, then STPM is hard...
if not, then, voila!. you can get 5A. Easy as Dell.

Agree!!! I believe that every test/examination is hard!!! Is it really that hard?! all depends on how you think....
Nothing should be compared with.....

SHuLy Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 228	#12 02-07-2004 from chenchow's last msg, i feel inclined to ask, would anyone of you would like to "speculate" or comment on why is it that the number of passes, and often scorers increase yearly in every major examination by the Malaysian education ministry (this excludes A-levels, SAM...etc. It's exams like UPSR, PMR, SPM and STPM) ?

Tiong Super Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1	#15 02-07-2004 The exam is tough. But the score for getting an A is constantly pulled down to make it level with matriculation. The toughness lies in the sheer size of the syllabus, but it's not that hard to prepare for.

Steppe Less Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 120	#17 03-07-2004 How come nobody feel that A levels is just as difficult?

The_Observer Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 275	#18 03-07-2004 You can't compare A-levels to STPM...A-levels is way too truncated to have a straight fight with STPM...oops better don't say too much, I already caused too much 'hoo-ha' over this matter already... STPM is up there in terms of sheer study intensity __________________ "Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish." --Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

masterof_none Administrator Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 834	#19 03-07-2004 try compare the Economics in STPM and Economics in A-Level . Except they already change the format, I believe Economics in A-Level is harder. especially paper number 2 (the statistics part). (isn't this a relative question?)