Event: Bersih 3.0 Rally

[henry_yew]

Mod note: Shuwenteo is hereby banned for three days for disregard of my previous warning not to put up offensive graphics. The next time this happens, the ban will be permanent. Offensive post removed.

[shawn95]

Originally Posted by henry_yew

Mod note: Shuwenteo is hereby banned for three days for disregard of my previous warning not to put up offensive graphics. The next time this happens, the ban will be permanent. Offensive post removed.

she is one very disgruntled citizen/recommer. more angry than humanly possible even. but still, offensive material is not nice. we're all civilised people here, right? yay for moderation!

[quest_5692]

first time i saw 'cremated' status in recom lol

anyway i missed the picture, can someone send me in the PM pleaseeeeeee

you know....pandora box x.x i want to seee

[day_dreamer]

wow wow wow .... for a long long time I first see mods flexing their muscles on ReCom. Awesome.

The last time i remembered was iQing's death on recom haha !

[Nicholas92]

LOL has it really been that long since the last ban?

Anyway let's continue the discussion.

Do any of you think Bersih should have accepted the stadium offer?

After all they wanted Stadium Merdeka for the last rally. This time it was Dataran. But even if it's not their first choice this time around, would it really be so bad if they had taken it?

You could say "What if they shot tear gas into the stadium?" but I don't think that would have happened. For Bersih 3.0, it was pretty clear that the police were deliberately waiting for a 'reason' to use tear gas/water cannons - in this case it was the breaching of the barricades. Before that they were fine.

I don't think they'd find any justification for using such tactics in a stadium, because it would have been sanctioned by the authorities, and there's no 'breach' that could have occurred, so to speak. If they HAD been stupid enough to shoot tear gas into a stadium, the backlash would be just as bad. But like I said, I don't think it would happen.

Of course, if you're the opposition, you want it out in the open, or on the streets - for the people to see, for the media cameras to capture.

At the same time I do find it somewhat (but only somewhat) acceptable that the offer for the stadium was made a bit too late to Bersih. DBKL should have given them the offer right from the start. But still...

Thoughts?

[quest_5692]

Originally Posted by shuwenteo

Human Rights Report '11 for Malaysia is now available: http://go.usa.gov/po6

welcome back!

[yanno_yamster]

I have 2 questions.

1) What does Lynas have to do with Bersih?
2) Why should I support stopping Lynas? Don't just tell us to blindly oppose Lynas, we need proper reasons.

[Nicholas92]

Originally Posted by yanno_yamster

I have 2 questions.

1) What does Lynas have to do with Bersih?
2) Why should I support stopping Lynas? Don't just tell us to blindly oppose Lynas, we need proper reasons.

1) Absolutely nothing, unless you consider Lynas = harmful radiation = unclean to be any sort of link.

2) Because Lynas hasn't demonstrated that it has a comprehensive plan for long-term waste management, although I suspect that even if it did, plenty of people would still oppose it. Sigh.

In a way it's die if they do and die if they don't. If they wanna ship the waste out - no can do, Australia won't take it. But keep it here and people shout even more - oh why should we take something another country doesn't want? Even if there was actually a way to manage it well and even make use of it.

(Which to be honest, they haven't quite done. But still)

The anti-Lynas sentiment is something that's been played up, so it'll pretty much continue to exist even if the company had all its details in place.

[Cactus]

Originally Posted by Nicholas92

1) Absolutely nothing, unless you consider Lynas = harmful radiation = unclean to be any sort of link.

2) Because Lynas hasn't demonstrated that it has a comprehensive plan for long-term waste management, although I suspect that even if it did, plenty of people would still oppose it. Sigh.

In a way it's die if they do and die if they don't. If they wanna ship the waste out - no can do, Australia won't take it. But keep it here and people shout even more - oh why should we take something another country doesn't want? Even if there was actually a way to manage it well and even make use of it.

(Which to be honest, they haven't quite done. But still)

The anti-Lynas sentiment is something that's been played up, so it'll pretty much continue to exist even if the company had all its details in place.

...... if want to talk about hypothetical ideal situations, everything will take its course in the way you want.

But no. I don't trust our government to enforce whatever "long-term waste management" it has (or has not!) negotiated with Lynas.