Muslim troublemaker

[PJKru]

Originally Posted by iQing

I disagree
Not all men are like that but you choose to believe so....

Ego turns believers into extremists

im not turning into any kind of extremist, you dont me , if you knew me you'd probably think is this guy that religious? so you're telling me when do you get turned on ? Also i could be wrong but most muslim single males dont get any action that means that they probably have more tension then non muslim single males. i could be wrong though.

[Thirdshifter]

PJkru.. your totally wrong! We have Muslim girls wearing hijab giving blowjob to Muslim mens in parks all over the country.

You don't see that with the chinese or Indians i can tell you that!

Muslim men get way to much action.. go to jakim and ask for the statistics.

[PJKru]

I'm waiting for my princess to arrive. I'm not going to get a blow job.

[Thirdshifter]

Originally Posted by PJKru

I'm not going to get a blow job.

You have a problem with fellating or you dont be be fellated? Not that there's anything wrong with either.,

[da-hype]

Originally Posted by Thirdshifter

However.. the topic is about a Female American-Muslim in America being thrown-out of a mosque her father built because she wants to pray on the same line with the Male mosques goers.

So, In America with girls who wear micro-mini skirts that sometimes is so short you can actually see the pussy winking at you.. how is your arguement relevant about women in burqas bending over?

in america or not in america, i didn't know girls were allowed to pray wearing mini skirts. oh wait, i forgot.. you can tell god .. "i have an american passport, i can do what ever i want. plus my dad built this mosque."

[Thirdshifter]

Originally Posted by da-hype

in america or not in america, i didn't know girls were allowed to pray wearing mini skirts. oh wait, i forgot.. you can tell god .. "i have an american passport, i can do what ever i want. plus my dad built this mosque."

I think you misunderstood me.

Let me rephrase.

This topic is discussing about the validity of the rule of no women allowed to prey amongst Men.

Like taufiq has said earlier.. will your arguement stand if all of the Men in that mosque are all blind? They can't see the women bending over.. hence no sexual arouse, so it does that mean it's ok?

However like taufiq said and i agree. There's basically nothing logic about Women praying behind men or infront of men.. but it is how it was instructed to us... sort of like Muslim cannot eat pork.. not that pork would kill you or anything.. but it is just prohibited.

[taufiq]

Thanks for bringing it up again Third.
The discussion has sort of running away from its original topic.
That's natural in Recom though..

(maybe in other forums as well)

[PJKru]

There are medical reasons(logical) why eating pork is bad for you. I have a book somewhere( i cant find it now but when i do i'll let you know) explaining the reasons why pork is forbidden in islam from a medical view. I'm pretty certain that the book was published in malaysia by a chinese muslim.

[PJKru]

i found the book its written by haji ibrahim tien ying MA.

THE REASON WHY MUSLIMS ABSTAIN FROM PORK PART ONE
a)To practise hygiene and to attain purity of nature
The abstention from eating pork is one of the steps taken by islam to pratise hygeine and to attain "purity of human nature" How does islam teach us clean living ? islam firstly insists on purity of our soul and on cleanliness of the body and secondly on gentle phsyical exercise. One of the five pillars of islam, i.e. prayers affords the best form of gentle exercise. science lays great emphasis on hygeine but neglects the importance of the cultivation of human nature in its purest form. It is similar to the concentration on the study of materialism and spiritualism . In fact spiritualism and the culture of pure nature are two subjects of science and philosophy which have been temporaritly neglected. I say temporarily neglected because i sincerely believe it will be revived and given its rightful prominence in future thorugh new inventions of science.

Hygene is superficial and materialistic but the cutlture of inner faculties is a more provoking study involving both body and spirit.

b)Islam regulates emotions. Not annihilate them
Ilam , like other religions , places great emphasis on good character and virture. Islam claims that man is born innocent. Mencius as well as Islam believe that good and bad are learned gradualy ; but the difference between the two theories is that islam teachers how to attain virture and how to shun bad habits because both good and bad grow up in man according to his education and environment in his daily life.

A human being has natural desires - food , sleep and sex. the three primary ones- and he has natural emotions such as happiness, anger, sorrow, love, fear, appetite and desire.
Desire is brough about by the instinct of possession. A dissatisfied instinct of possession breeds envy and eventually develops jealousy and avarice. Islam nevertheless does not recommend the anihilation of the emotions as some religions do but offers a method to control them because , as long as men lives, these emotions will exist . emotions are like the motor in a vehicle. it is up to the driver to control and guide it to useful ends.

c)selection of food

The prohibition of the eating of pork in islam is a forward step in materialistic education . This leads automatically to deeper understanding of the need for the culture of a pure human nature. As blood is virturally our life and what we consume ultimately affects the blood system . it is therefore necessary to excercise choice in the section of our food and drink. It is quite obvious that the more man has advanced in civilisation, the more carefully he selcts his food. we also know that the uncivilised people of the world in the past were canibals. they start to select food when they reach the door of a higher cutlure. they also lose their preivious inferiority complex. these are the proofs supporting my statement.

the advance of human nature into its purest from does not end in the abstinance from pork eating. the eating of flesh of creatures which die a natural death or in the course of fighting be they cattle goats or poultry is equally forbidden by islam. we do not know if scientists have made a study of flesh or blood of animals which have died as a result of fighting but we muslims are tuaght not to consume the flesh of those animals.

apart from the above and as a matter of principle, muslims do not eat the flesh of animals of prey such as the lion, gtiger, leopard, snakes and even cats, dogs rats, etc. this prohibition is based on the purification of ones nature. because food when consumed does not merely enter the intestines and becomes excreta . it is absorbed in to the blood system and circulated to all parts of the huamsn body including the brain and this in no small way affects mans nature.

islam allows muslims to p arake of clean flesh, it neither prevents nor enocourage anyone to become vegetarians. however in the consumption of flesh, muslims are require to be selective. some people have argued that the modern pig is given only clean food and therefore its flesh should be consumable. the answer to this argument is this. you the feed the pig with clean wholesome mash but you cannot change its nature. it is still a pig. a pig is not a plant and you cannot change it by bud grafting.

d)nature of a pig
The pig is naturally lazy and indulgent in sex. it dislikes sun light and lacks the spirti and will to fight . the older it grows the lazier it gets. it easts almost anything be it faeces or anything dirty. it prefers dirty places to clean ones. it easts and sleeps only and hate moving arround. it is the most avaricious of all domestic animals. amongst all animals , the pig is the greatests cradle of harmaful germs. p ork also serves as a carrer of diseases to mankind. it is for this reason that it is not suitable for consumption